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Do the Ica Stones prove that mankind coexisted with dinosaurs and had advanced technology?


It is a rare object that stimulates the curiosity of archaeologists, ancient astronaut theorists, and creationists all at the same time, but the Ica stones have done just that. The Ica stones refer to the momentous collection of more than 15,000 engraved stones which curiously depict clear and detailed dinosaurs, complex medical surgery, and forms of advanced technology such as telescopes. Most believe the stones are nothing more than an elaborate hoax, while others maintain that they are evidence that an ancient race of humans who possessed advanced technology coexisted with dinosaurs.

The stones, which vary in size from pebbles to boulders, are composed of grey andesite with a granite semi-crystalline matrix. It is a hard stone that is difficult to carve, but the images are scratched through the oxidised surfaces. The images carved onto the surface also vary in complexity from simple pictures engraved on one side of the stone to designs of complex scenes. Some of the designs appear to be in styles which can be recognised as belonging to the Paracas, Nazca, Tiwanaku or Inca cultures, while others are in a style never seen before.

The subject matter includes images of flowers, fish, or living animals, including the more controversial dinosaur depictions, as well as mythological-type beasts or monsters. Other stones depict geometric images and symbols that correspond with known petroglyphs and geoglyphs. For example, one of the Ica stones depicts a monkey, which is almost identical to one of the Nazca geoglyphs.

Ica stone carving on the left and Nazca geoglyph on the right

The stones that have drawn the most attention are those that depict different species of dinosaurs, as well as those that show advanced technology, such as telescopes and flying machines, and medical practices that were unknown at the time they were found, such as a caesarean section with acupuncture used as a form of anaesthesia, and heart transplants.

The depictions of dinosaurs on these Ica stones appear unmistakable

The stone on the left depicts a man looking through a telescope, while the stone on the right appears to show heart surgery.

The background story

According to reported accounts of the discovery of the Ica stones, in 1966, Peruvian physician Javier Cabrera Darquea was presented with a stone by a friend for his 42 nd birthday which had a carved picture of what he believed to be an extinct fish. Based on his interest in Peruvian prehistory, Cabrera began collecting more of the stones. He purchased more than 300 from two brothers who also collected pre-Incan artefacts. Cabrera later found another source of the stones, a farmer named Basilio Uschuya, who claimed he found a huge cache of the stones when the Ica River overflowed its banks destroying a nearby mountain and exposing an unknown cave. Uschuya would not reveal the cave’s location but agreed to sell thousands of the stones to Cabrera, boosting his collection to more than 11,000 stones by the 1970s.

Just some of the thousands of Ica stones that form Cabrera’s collection. Photo source .

News of the find caught the interest of researchers and the eyes of the world turned toward Ica. Subsequently, the BBC produced a documentary on the discovery bringing an extraordinary amount of focus on the Peruvian Government. Under pressure to police the country's antiquities, the Government arrested the farmer for selling the stones. Facing years of incarceration, the farmer recanted his story claiming he'd carved all 15,000 of the stones himself. He even demonstrated how he engraved the stones using a dental drill. The stones were labelled a hoax and the government considered the embarrassing matter closed. But the story would not go away.

Cabrera published a book, entitled ‘The Message of the Engraved Stones of Ica’, discussing his theories of the origins and meaning of the stones. In it he argued that the stones show that humans originated from another planet and were at least 405 million years old. Further, he claimed that "Through the transplantation of cognitive codes to highly intelligent primates, the men from outer space created new men on earth."

Cabrera’s book, as well as his opening of a museum featuring several thousand of the stones in 1996, brought widespread attention to the stones. Creationists used the Ica stones to claim that humans lived in proximity with dinosaurs, which contradicts evidence that the extinction of dinosaurs predates mankind by approximately 65 million years and disproves evolutionary theory. Believers in the ancient astronaut theory have also cited the stones as evidence of a lost, advanced civilisation brought to man from other planets. Neither of these positions is supported in scientific or academic communities.

Fact or Fiction?

Those who maintain that the Ica stones are authentic maintain that Uschuya was forced to announce that he had faked the stones to avoid imprisonment – Peruvian law prohibits the sale of archaeological discoveries. Indeed, Uschuya himself recanted his forging story during an interview with a journalist, saying that he claimed they were a hoax to avoid jail. However, sceptics dismiss this explanation referring to Uschuya’s convincing demonstration of how he produced them.

Proponents also argue that other engraved stones have been found within the Ica region, not just the ones ‘found’ by Uschuya. Archaeologist Alejandro Pezzia Assereto, a trustee of the Ica Regional Museum, found engraved stones within three different tombs dating from 400 BC to 700 AD. The engraved images on the stones resemble those found on the Ica stones sold by Uschuya. In 1968 Assereto published his findings, including drawings and descriptions.

Nevertheless, it is argued that if ancient humans once possessed advanced technology there would be a lot more evidence than carved stones, including the technology itself. Furthermore, sceptics point out that the dinosaur depictions resemble popular mid-twentieth century reconstructions, which show them as lumbering beasts, dragging their tails along the ground. We now know that this was not how they walked, a clear demonstration that the stones are a twentieth-century product and not the creations of people who saw living dinosaurs.

According to Cabrera, the proof that the stones are not a hoax is in their number. There are too many stones for a single farmer, or even a collective of hoaxers, to have scratched out. It has been calculated that the farmer would have had to carve one stone every day for over 40 years to produce the total library.

An alternative theory put forward is that some of the stones are authentic, while a smaller subset, perhaps the most controversial, was forged. This could account for virtually all the facts of the case. Uschuya may have found some stones, produced more which were controversial in order to garner interest, and then sell them at a good price.

Many have asked, why don't scientists simply date the stones and settle the matter? The problem is that stones without organic material trapped in them can only be dated according to the strata layer in which they are found. Since Cabrera's stones come from some mystery cave which has never been identified, much less excavated, there is no way to date them.

Today, most agree that the stones are nothing more than an interesting hoax, however, others maintain that attempts to discredit the stones are merely a way to hide evidence that conflicts with mainstream perspectives. The Ica museum in which the stones are housed remains open to those who would like to interpret the mysteries for themselves.

Featured image: Ica Stone depicting man on top of a dinosaur. Photo source .


Ica stones show humans and dinosaurs coexisted (Talk.Origins)

Ica stones, collected by Dr. Javier Cabrera Darquea near the village of Ica in Peru, show ancient drawings of humans hunting or otherwise interacting with living dinosaurs.

Source: Berlitz, Charles, 1984. Atlantis, the Eighth Continent. New York: G. P. Putnam's Sons, pp. 179-181. Triumph Prophetic Ministries, n.d., Dinosaurs and man?


CreationWiki response: (Talk.Origins quotes in blue)

Yes, some of the local people claim to have carved the ones that they are selling. They do so to stay out of jail for selling them, since the real ones are national treasures of Peru. Some fakes have turned up, but while they emulate the basic style, the fakes are not perfect duplicates. More important is the fact that the genuine stones have a bacterial "varnish" over them (including the pictures) that takes at least 200 years to form. This includes those depicting dinosaurs.

Actually the source of the more than 15,000 stones is known. They are ceremonial burial stones from tombs near Ica, Peru that are dated from 500-1500 A.D. In 1525 a Spanish Priest, while near Ica, is reported to have inquired about these stones. Furthermore the bacterial "varnish" sets a minimum age of 200 years on the stones.

Some of the Ica stones have images like those of Nazca drawings. The lack of dinosaur images at Nazca only shows that they were not part of the theme of the lines.

Unless the lines that look like airplane runways really are airplane runways, there are no depictions of technology at all in the Nazca drawings. The fact that Nazca drawings can only be seen for what they are from the air does suggest that those who made them had some flight technology, even if they were just hot air balloons.


Baalbek: Jewel of Aryan Architecture in Ancient Lebanon

In the post-Flood period., a mass migration of ancient Aryan tribes moved south from the Caucuses and into the plains of southern Turkey, Syria, Mesopotamia and into Lebanon, and across to Africa to settle in Egypt and Libya. Today, the populations of the earth are often perceived as the same today as they were thousands of years ago. This is not the case. Populations are in a constant state of transformation and racial struggle. Arthur Kemp, Rhodesian race expert and author of the book March of the Titans: The Complete History of the White Race, noted this reality. He explained that based on anatomical and genetic evidence extracted from tombs and human remains, archaeological evidence and depictions found in sculpture and relief paintings, and references in ancient writings of Egypt, the Near East, Iran and India, evidence clearly suggests these same regions were all predominately white in ancient times and the remote past.

One of the most ancient and archaeologically significant megalithic sites built by ancient whites in the world is Baalbek, an ancient city which has been continuously occupied for thousands of years. Baalbek lies approximately eighty-six kilometers northeast of the city of Beirut in eastern Lebanon. The origin of the name Baalbek remains a mystery. It may derive from the Phoenician term Baal, which simply means “lord” or “god.” Recent genetic analysis of Phoenician remains has shown a European origin, mostly of an Old European background with some Nordic admixture. The name was later applied to a Semitic sky god that predominated throughout the ancient Near East. According to ancient mythology, Baalbek was actually the birthplace of Baal himself, and it is highly probable that Baal was the central figure in a trinity of gods venerated at the site— including his son, Aliyan, and his daughter, Anat.

Baalbek, this most enigmatic of holy places, is one of the Near East’s preeminent Roman and pre-Roman temple sites, the object of study by archaeologists and historians the world over. In 1898, a German expedition there claimed to have discovered no evidence of occupation prior to the Roman period, despite other claims suggesting a very ancient habitation of the site. Recent archaeological finds have supported the latter idea, for in a deep trench at the edge of the Jupiter temple platform, pottery dating to the Seleucid era (323–64 BCE) as well as Roman era remains (64 BCE–312 CE) were discovered. During both the Seleucid and Roman occupations, the town surrounding the immense religious monument was known as Heliopolis, the “City of the Sun,” and the sun god Jupiter was the focal point of the shrine. (The Roman god Jupiter had overtaken and supplanted the Greek god Zeus, and replaced the earlier god Baal, who incidentally shared some common characteristics with Zeus and, subsequently, Jupiter.)

Archaeologists now agree that Baalbek is more than nine thousand years old, with continual settlement dating from the Neolithic Age to the Roman Iron Age. Surrounding the site are massive walls built with twenty-four monoliths, weighing some three hundred tons each. The tallest wall, on the western flank of the temple site, contains what is known as the trilithon, a row of three stones, each 19 meters long, 4.3 meters high, and 3.6 meters broad, cut from solid limestone. Each stone weighs approximately eight hundred tons. Even with today’s technology, moving them into place would be a tremendous architectural accomplishment indeed.

According to David Hatcher Childress (2000):

Large numbers of pilgrims came from Mesopotamia as well as the Nile Valley to the Temple of Ba’al-Astarte. The site is mentioned in the Bible in the Book of Kings. There is a vast underground network of passages beneath the acropolis. Their function is unknown, but they were possibly used to shelter pilgrims, probably at a later period.

How then was Baalbek constructed? Ancient Arab writings explain that the first stages of Baalbek, including the trilithon and other massive stone blocks, were built following the Great Flood at the mandate of King Nimrod, by a “tribe of giants” (Childress 2000). Again, we see the same giant motif, lending credence to the race of giants theory. How could so many disparate cultures in so many isolated locations all around the world arrive at the same supposition that giants were responsible for building the great megalithic monuments of prehistory? Seeing that these accounts were created by later non-white or non-Aryan sources, the presence of tall, technologically superior beings would be remembered as giants from the perspective of their technologically lacking ancestors.

It was the Aryans who then gave this culture to their descendants. The fact that the ancient Aryans were a mobile, and dominate race, has led to these stories appearing across the globe, in many different cultures and religions. Further, many of these seeming non-white cultures, deep in their ancestry have hidden white origins. It is this innate power, this ability as founders of culture and civilization, that the Jews have forever lamented over for not being that themselves. It is this vindictive jealousy, which is typical of the Jewish attitude to all whites, that is driving their genocidal war against us. This battle has stretched over for many thousands of years. It is up to the generation of today, and the generations to come, to stop this war for lasting much further.


Can the Ica Stones be Independently Authenticated?

Perus’s enigmatic Ica Stones have been puzzling historians and scientists for many decades. Allegedly found in ancient tombs, the library of engraved rocks displayed at the private Cabrera Museum facility in the village of Ica, Peru contains clear dinosaurian representations. Dinosaur drawings from pre-Colombian cultures are highly problematic for the prevailing theory that all dinosaurs became extinct before man evolved. However, these artifacts have been viewed with considerable skepticism since they were not found and documented by trained researchers. But other similar ceremonial burial stones were discovered and documented by international archaeologists and are housed in the collections of respected museums. This article explores ways to test Ica Stones to independently establish their antiquity or to confirm that they are merely modern productions created by enterprising local artisans.

Table 1 – Generalized Ceramic Periods in Peru

The Ica and Nazca valleys in southern coastal Peru enjoyed a rich history as tribal Indian groups rose to prominence, like the prominent Nazcan culture which lasted from 200 BC to approximately 700 AD and the Ica culture which flourished from about 600 AD to almost 1200 AD.[i][ii] Tribal groups like the Nazcas, Icas, Wari, and especially the Paracas left behind numerous beautiful artifacts buried in their desert tombs. Along with rich fabrics, ancient tools, and detailed gold and ceramic works, are engraved ceremonial stones from these peoples. The stones were first found in the tombs of the Ica Indians and so the generic name “Ica Stones” was applied to all them. Antiquities from this region are typically dated by archaeologists using generalized “Ceramic Periods” (Table 1).

Ica Stones are rounded andesite river rock, sourced locally in southern Peru, which have been worked by artisans in one of two ways. The primary methodology involved blackening the surface of the stone. (Probably this black coating came from tar pits that are located south of the Ocucaje Desert.) Then grooves measuring about 1/16th of an inch deep were etched into the stone. The other methodology involved in manufacturing Ica Stones is bas relief artwork (where the surface of the stone is lowered leaving the artistic depictions raised above the surface of the stone).

The name “Ica Stones” seems to have stuck because of the vast collection of these stones assembled in the village of Ica, Peru by Javier Cabrera Darquea. Cabrera was a Professor of Medicine and head of his department at the University of Lima. He was also named Director of Culture for the Province of Ica. Cabrera became enamored with a collection of 600 engraved stone artifacts owned by the Solté brothers. Carlos and Pablo Solté operated a plantation in Ocucaje and allegedly obtained those stones by excavating tombs on their own property. After buying half of the Solté collection, Cabrera augmented this archive by purchasing stones from locals who claimed to discover them during tomb excavations. Eventually over 11,000 such stones became part of the private Cabrera Museum collection.[iii] The stones range in size from a diminutive 100 grams to giant lithic art specimens weighing approximately 25 kg. The engraved pictures run the gamut from simple insects to elaborate fishing scenes and warriors fighting with what appear to be dinosaurian creatures. Even sceptics concede, “They clearly depict such dinosaurs as triceratops, stegosaurus, Apatosaurus [sic] and human figures riding on the backs of flying pterodactyls…. How could this be? Modern man is only about 2 million years old and dinosaurs are thought to have become extinct about 60 million years ago.”[iv]

Categorizing the Stones

The Ica Stones can be divided into three categories based on their provenance. There have been numerous stones discovered during documented tomb excavations involving qualified archaeologists. For example, in 1968 the Peruvian archaeologist Pezzia Assereto published a book on the archeology of the province of Ica. As the representative of the National Archaeology Department of Peru, Assereto was in charge of excavations at the ancient Paracas and Ica cemeteries of Max Uhle and Toma Luz. He was initially suspicious of the private Ica Stone collections. However, after a considerable amount of work, he was able to find an engraved stone in situ at a tomb, which proved to his satisfaction “the authenticity of these artifacts.”[v] Later, in the San Evaristo cemetery in Toma Luz, Assereto found another blackened, burial stone displaying a very realistic image of a fish. He dated the tomb to the Middle Horizon period (600-1000 AD).[vi] He further recorded the discovery in an Ica tomb a ceremonial stone with a flat surface on which was carved a realistic image of a llama.[vii]

Figure 1 – Ica Stone on display at the Museo Aeronáutico

The various stones discovered by Assereto became part of the collection at Museo Regional de Ica. Other official museums involved with Ica Stone artifacts include Lima’s Museo Aeronáutico (Figure 1), the Naval Museum, the Nazca Museum (Didactic Museum Antonini), and the Palpa Museum of Peru. These museum pieces appear identical in manufacturing to the stones at the Cabrera Museum (the patina build-up, the bas-relief artistic style, and the depth of the etching). But their collections are not nearly as vast and don’t contain the controversial dinosaur depictions. We will call the Ica Stones in this category “museum stones.”

Figure 2 – Woetzel at the Cabrera Museum in Ica, Peru

The Cabrera collection (Figure 2) has long been viewed with skepticism because their artifacts were not found by archaeologists. Rather, they have come from impoverished, local Peruvians who know the landscape and are adept at finding desert tombs, digging down into them, and removing the valuables. These are the Huaqueros. They operate in a gray area of the law, digging without a permit, and selling finds to archaeologists, private collectors, and even world class museums. The unspoken rule of the Huaqueros is that they never talk about where they find things. To be arrested as a grave robber could result in many long years in Peruvian prisons. Once such tomb digger, Basilio Uschuya, especially fell under the suspicion of actually producing the stones to sell to Cabrera after artificially “aging them.”[viii] While the implausibility of this accusation has been dealt with elsewhere[ix], the Cabrera collection must be classified as “stones of unknown provenance” (a second category).

Figure 3 – Basilio Uschuya Souvenir Stone

This brings us to the third category. Recently manufactured stones are available for sale to tourists. The fascination of New Agers, UFO advocates, and curious visitors ensures a ready market. After multiple visits, I (Swift) built up a friendship with Basilio Uschuya. On one such visit I offered to pay him to make me a dinosaur stone. It took a full day for him to carve a crude dinosaur onto a small stone using a hacksaw blade. The stone wasn’t much to look at (Figure 3), but I was pleased that I had in my possession a “Basilio original” which we could utilize later for comparison. Such recently-produced artifacts we will call “souvenir stones.”

Authentication

To the best of our knowledge no testing has been done on the Ica Stones by those who claim the stones were recently manufactured. And no rigorous critique of them has been published in the literature. Stones that have been found by museum-sponsored excavations or prominent archaeologists have, naturally, been accepted without authentication. But the Ica Stones of unknown provenance are another story. Seeking to establish credibility for his collection, Cabrera commissioned a number of tests on his artifacts. For example, in 1967 a few of his stones were submitted for examination to staff at a mining company in Lima. Geologist Eric Wolf documented his opinion that the patina and signs of wear demonstrated antiquity.[x] Wolf then submitted the stones to a laboratory in Bonn, Germany for further testing. Cabrera later reported: “On January 28, 1969 I received word from Eric Wolf that the results of the laboratory analysis conducted by a Professor Frenchen and his assistants at the University of Bonn were available. The stones were andesite and were covered by a patina or film of natural oxidation which also covered the etchings, permitting one to deduce that they are very old.”[xi]

Some independent researchers have taken the initiative to analyze the Cabrera Ica Stones and concluded they are genuine antiquities. Ryan Drum is an American biologist from Iowa State University. While a NATO Scholar, he did postdoctoral studies on cell biology with an electron microscope at the Universities of Bonn, Germany and Leeds, England. Drum has authored over 30 scientific papers in peer-reviewed journals, and has written the book Electron Microscopy of Diatom Cells. In the 1970s he brought two Ica Stones to the U.S. and performed a microscopic analysis of them. Drum wrote, “I have examined the rocks at 30 and 60 magnification in a stereo microscope, and found no obvious grinding or polishing marks . . .”[xii] When I (Woetzel) corresponded with him regarding patination Drum clarified, “There was some desert varnish but not enough for me to estimate age.”[xiii]

Over the course of the last two decades I (Swift) have traveled numerous times to southern Peru, building up relationships with Cabrera, various museum officials, archaeologists and Huaqueros. On one trip Cabrera gave me a couple of his Ica Stones that had dinosaurs engraved upon them. I have personally visited the desert tomb sites on a number of occasions. Once while a group of us were walking over a gray desert hill that was a burial mound, we came upon some previously unknown tombs that had only recently collapsed and there, to my surprise, I discovered an engraved stone in situ, embedded in the side of the tomb. I filmed this with a camcorder. That particular stone was decorated with some non-descript geometric shapes.

Figure 4 – Swift & Rio Grande Palpa Museum Stone

In the spring of 2001, I (Swift) was notified by authorities from the Palpa Museum that they had discovered in-situ an engraved stone displaying dinosaurs and other animals. It had recently been excavated from a Nazcan tomb complex that was dated between 400 and 700 A.D. This burial site is located at the far northern end of the Nazca Desert, just past the popular Nazcan Lines. The simplistic sauropod dinosaur on the stone is somewhat obscured by the extensive patina and not as detailed as most of the Cabrera Stones. There were about thirty eye witnesses to the stone’s discovery, including museum staff archaeologists. The tomb is located beside an irrigation ditch near Rio Grande Palpa, a river valley where it was exposed to an unusual amount of moisture. Because of that, there is an unmistakable patina, along with the typical film of oxidation.

Figure 5 – A Photo of the Head of the Dinosaurian Figure on the Museum Stone Showing Extensive Patina Buildup

Figure 6 – A Sketch of the Dinosaurian Figure Carved onto the Museum Stone

Knowing my interest in Ica Stones containing dinosaurian representations, the Museum officials allowed me to examine and photograph this Nazcan burial stone (Figures 4-6). Eventually I was even able to secure permission to take their remarkable artifact to the United States for analysis. Moreover, the museum staff documented the details of this Ica Stone’s discovery for us in writing. Having possession of Ica Stones from each category (the souvenir stone from Uschuya, the Cabrera stones of unknown provenance, and the museum stone of known provenance from the Palpa Museum staff) I explored whether there was a reliable way to discriminate between these categories, an independent test to authenticate the Ica Stones. If such a methodology could be established, this would be a powerful tool for evaluating the extensive Cabrera collection, including those stones of unknown provenance displaying unmistakable dinosaurian carvings. The most common way to validate purported antiquities originating in a desert environment is to employ a lab that has experience in evaluating for authentic patina.

Patina Testing

All three stones (each containing dinosaurian engravings) were submitted to Mason Optical, Inc. in Hillsboro, OR for initial analysis. The lab conducted an independent blind test on the three stones. The souvenir stone was clearly established as a recent production, with no authentic patina buildup in the angled incisions. Careful analysis by their specialized jumbo hospital stereoscopic microscope even detected blue metal flakes in an incision, undoubtedly traces of Basilio Uschuya’s hacksaw blade.

The analysis of the Cabrera stone of unknown provenance revealed a fine patina, embedded dirt, and natural oxidation, solid evidence of authenticity. The lab report stated “These stones have been engraved with drawings. The incision of the drawings had a patina film over them. Therefore, they could not be of recent origin.” In addition to those age indicators, the museum stone displayed extensive salt peter buildup and even a lichen growth on one section of the stone. The report concluded, “Patination is a relative dating method and is not absolute. These stones could have been engraved 500 years ago, 2000 years ago or earlier, but definitely are not modern.”[xiv]

While this lab report was pretty definitive for the artifacts tested, there still remained a significant degree of uncertainty how well this test would work for the many Cabrera collection artifacts. Most of the stones of unknown provenance, including those with obvious dinosaurian depictions, display very little patina (as Ryan Drum had observed). In very arid conditions (less than an inch of rainfall per year in the Ocucaje), it is not uncommon for genuine artifacts to have little or no patina, even after many centuries.[xv] And, as the lab report itself concluded, “Patination is a relative dating method…”

Metallurgical Test Hypothesis

A second lab analysis was undertaken, utilizing a completely different authentication methodology. The same three Ica Stones were submitted to a lab specializing in metallurgical analysis. Our hypothesis was that poor Peruvians would have utilized readily-available modern tools like Ushuyai had done if they were mass-producing Ica Stones for Cabrera. Ancient stone artifacts, on the other hand, would likely give evidence of a Bronze-Age production. “Compositional analyses can identify the alloys made by the ancient people, help in the authentication of items with uncertain origin (i.e. not excavated from well-controlled archaeological environments), bring information on the employed metallurgical procedures, and, in the case of very ancient artefacts, provide hints about the raw materials provenance.”[xvi] Metallurgical analysis also would not be influenced by any “artificial aging” patina applied to fake stones.

Figure 7 – Nazcan Bronze Tools from Tombs

An analysis was commissioned utilizing Chemoptix Laboratory in West Linn, OR, and we submitted the same three stones for examination. The lab requested sample Nazcan tools for metallurgical comparison purposes. Fortunately, we were able to secure three implements of known provenance (Figure 7). Here is a portion of the final lab report:

Figure 8 – Paracas Stone with Arrows Marking where Metals Were Recovered

“This basaltic stone [stone of unknown provenance] showed small areas of copper mineralization loosely adhering to the regions of carved incision. The stone incisions also showed abrasion from incision. Although the stone indicated general protection from weathering, copper residues were severely weathered. Nonetheless, a few intact metallic fragments were observed (Figure 8). SEM/EDX [Scanning electron microscopy with energy dispersive X-ray spectroscopy] analysis indicated both scuffing morphology and spectra for a silver-bronze (Figure 9). Weathered zones adjacent to these particles also showed spectra suggesting derivation from this metal those further from the metal scuffs presented spectra less relatable to the scuffs and indicating a more complex mixture of matrix elements and possibly limited diffusion. Perhaps significantly, no arsenic was recovered from the metal scuffs nor the adjacent weathered regions. This stone [museum stone] showed weathering in its carved incisions on all examined surfaces. On a single planar surface, MIC analysis showed the rock-building minerals altering into secondary mineralization with similar habit but exhibiting expanded volumes related to alteration within the incisions….No relict abrasions, metallic or otherwise, were observed in the incisions on this stone. No metallo-oxide/hydroxides derived from iron nor copper were observed.“The stone surfaces were examined in their entirety using dissection microscopes equipped with episcopic/incident light illumination (MIC). Incision (carved) regions showing possible reacted metal were tape-lifted using carbon tape and analyzed via scanning electron imaging and back scattering (SEM/EDX).

The ‘weathering’ on this stone [souvenir stone] peripheral to the incised figures was brushed on as a paint/coating. There were no conspicuous metal/metallo-oxides within the incisions upon cursory MIC evaluation.”[xvii]

It might seem odd that the museum stone of known provenance did not yield any metal remnants whatsoever for analysis. But we feel this fits with the extensive patina and lichen buildup from the more humid environment. The presence of moisture and the great antiquity of the artifact likely resulted in the complete corrosion of any residual metals. Any remaining corrosion remnants probably are embedded under the thick patina. This scenario is hardly unprecedented.

“Swedish researchers recently carried out a detailed statistical study that examined aspects of bronze corrosion and the burial environment for artifacts from the Bronze Age, the Viking period, and the early Middle Ages (Mattsson et al. 1996)…. Soil moisture was shown in the Swedish statistical work to be a significant influence on copper deterioration in burial environments. This corrosion is promoted in artifacts by deep burial (but still above the water table) by burial at low height above sea level for coastal material by small pour size in the surrounding soil and by burial in a barrow (burial mound).”[xviii]

Figure 9 – EDX Spectrum from Metal that was Recovered from the Cabrera Stone Showing Characteristic X-ray Peaks that Indicate a Sample’s Elemental Composition

The absence of arsenic and only trace amounts of tin detected in the stone of unknown provenance (from Cabrera) is a very positive indicator of antiquity. Early Bronze Age tools were simply made from “dirty copper,” typically annealed and beaten into shape. As metallurgy advanced, “Copper alloyed with small quantities of arsenic, lead, antimony and tin appeared during the Eneolithic, indicating the first attempts of prehistoric metallurgists to improve the technical characteristics of native copper.”[xix] Later Bronze Age workmanship consistently involved the addition of controlled amounts of arsenic and eventually tin to the smelted copper to increase the hardness of the final bronze product.

“The bronze alloys of copper-arsenic and copper-tin were a phenomenon of the late Middle Horizon and Early Late Intermediate Period (ca A.C. 900-1100) in the Central Andean culture. They were not the first copper-based alloys to be developed in the Andean region the alloys of copper-silver and copper-gold long preceded them.”[xx]

In ancient Peru, arsenical bronze was the most common in northern and central regions because of the rich arsenic bearing ores present there. The south and central Andes (including the Nazca region of southern Peru) were rich in the tin ore Cassiterite. By 1500 AD the Incas had disseminated the more-advanced tin bronze throughout their South American empire.[xxi] Modern bronze is anywhere from 5% tin (a mild bronze) to 25% tin (in brittle bell metals) with about 12% being the most common.

The metallurgy of the bronze tools discovered in the Nazcan tombs was also analyzed by Chemoptix. None of them precisely matched the composition of the metal bits found on the stone of unknown provenance. One tool contained the silver but none contained the tin traces. Thus, they did not exactly match each other either. This result is consistent with the belief that these tools were produced during the Early Bronze Age when impurities and uncontrolled alloys made for variations in bronze implement composition. Still today, profitably mining the extensive Peruvian copper ore deposits is difficult because of its varied impurities, especially arsenic.[xxii]

Table 2 – Summary of Ica Stones Analyses

While the metallurgical authentication results for this stone of unknown provenance are quite impressive, an important question remains. Could it be a modern stone production that was manufactured with Bronze Age tools? We think this to be extremely unlikely for a few reasons. Cabrera was not performing any of the analysis that we did as he bought stones (nor could he with the technology available at the time). Ancient bronze implements found in the tombs are rare and would most likely be sold quickly to a collector. If the Huaqeros were manufacturing Ica Stones en masse, it doesn’t seem reasonable that they would have bothered to use ancient tools. Certainly Basilio Uschuya (who had supplied stones for Cabrera) did not do that when he produced the Souvenir Stone. Moreover, Early Bronze Age tools would have worn out long before the thousands of Cabrera Stones could be manufactured.

We must also consider the possibility of contamination. The museum stone has been carefully handled by professional archaeologists. Heme iron from blood traces in the burial process could have been introduced before the archaeologists recovered the stone, but this wouldn’t impact on the bronze profile analysis. We cannot be sure that the stone of unknown provenance was carefully handled and stored over the years. However, we feel it is very improbably that highly corroded bronze elements would have been introduced in such a way that they would adhere in the incisions.

The next step in our research will be to utilize this same metallurgical analysis in attempting to authenticate Ica Stones of unknown provenance exhibiting dramatic, realistic depictions of obvious dinosaur species. It is hoped that lab tests continue to provide clear and consistent results as we proceed with the testing. Pre-Colombian burial stones have the potential to be powerful evidence that men and dinosaurs coexisted. While the Palpa Museum’s in-situ discovery of an Ica Stone with extensive patina buildup that contains simplistic dinosaurian representations was a marvelously unique find perhaps more significant is the development of a promising methodology to authenticate the numerous dinosaurian Ica Stones of unknown provenance.

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[ii] Siverman, Helaine, and Proulx, Donald, The Nascas, Wiley-Blackwell, 2002, p. 1.

[iv] Wagner, Stephen, The mysterious Ica Stones: Do these strange artifacts challenge modern paleontology?, About.com website, http://paranormal.about.com/cs/ancientanomalies/a/aa041904.htm Accessed July 7, 2016.

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The ICA Stones Controversy

The Ica Stones Controversy


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The Ica Stones

The Ica stones are a collection of andesite stones that contain what are alleged to be ancient depictions of dinosaurs and advanced technology. Beginning in the 1930s, the father of Dr. Javier Cabrera, Cultural Anthropologist for Ica, Peru, discovered many hundreds of ceremonial burial stones in the tombs of the ancient Incas. Dr. Cabrera collected more than 1,100 of these andesite stones, which are estimated to be between 500 and 1,500 years old and have become known collectively as the Ica Stones. The stones bear etchings, many of which are sexually graphic (which was common to the culture), some picture idols and others depict such practices as open-heart surgery and brain transplants. The most astonishing etchings, however, clearly represent dinosaurs – brontosaurs, triceratops (see photo), stegosaurus and pterosaurs. While skeptics consider the Ica Stones a hoax. The stones are reported to have been found in caves and stream beds. Because they are rocks and contain no organic material, Carbon-14 dating cannot be used. No other method of radiometric dating has been applied to the stones. Furthermore, even a confirmation of the rocks’ age would not prove that the engravings upon them had not been produced at a later date.

The stones depict a wide variety of scenes: dinosaurs attacking or helping humans, advanced technology, advanced medical operations, maps, and sexual depictions. While there is a degree of ambiguity that leaves room for differing interpretations, they display definite knowledge of things that are wholly anachronistic. They have caught the attention of many people inclined to question aspects of modern science, and Creationists and others have used the Ica stones to argue against prevailing scientific theories.

Cabrera attempted to resolve the many scenes into a narrative, and from there to decipher a history of the civilization he believed made the stones. He believed that the ancient technology belonged to what he called Gliptolithic Man, an extraterrestrial race which supposedly arrived sufficiently long ago to coexist with the dinosaurs and then genetically engineered modern man. Cabrera believes that some time afterward, they left to another planet, utilizing the nearby Nazca lines as a spaceport, before some unspecified catastrophe occurred.

In 1998, Spanish investigator Vicente Paris declared after four years of investigation that the evidence indicates that the stones are a hoax. Among the proofs presented by this investigator were microphotographs of the stones that showed traces of modern paints and abrasives. The strongest evidence of fraud as claimed is the crispness of the shallow engravings stones of great age should have substantial erosion of the surfaces.


Seven Priceless Historical Artifacts Destroyed by Humans

All around the world, historical artifacts teach us about our past. But sometimes, on purpose or by accident, those relics are destroyed. We take a look at some of the most important treasures that were cut, toppled or hammered.

The Star-Spangled Banner Flag

One of the most treasured possessions of the Smithsonian Museum is the Star-Spangled Banner, which was one of the very first American flags to be made during the Revolutionary War. It was made with 15 stars, but now you will only find 14. After the war, Lt. Col. George Armistead took the huge 30-foot-by-42-foot flag home as a keepsake. When he and his wife died, it was passed down to their daughter, Georgiana Armistead. People asked her for fragments of the flag, so she cut it up with scissors and mailed it to whoever she thought was worthy. More than 200 square feet of the flag was removed before Smithsonian conservationists got to it in 1907.

Jewelry Heist

In Tasmania’s Nirmena Nala rock shelter, you will find a preserved set of stenciled handprints made by the ancestors of Australia’s Aboriginal people. The handprints withstood the test of time, but vandals destroyed them in mere minutes. Someone went into the shelters and scratched away the images with a rock to try and deface them.

Ancient Pyramid in Belize

Belize has extensive Maya ruins, but a construction company destroyed one of the largest. The company was scooping stone out of the major pyramid at the site of Nohmul, one of only 15 ancient Maya sites important enough to be noted on the National Geographic World Atlas. Almost the entire pyramid, once over 60 feet tall, was destroyed by road building crews.

Looters Destroy Mummies

On Saturday, Jan. 29, 2011, looters entered the Egyptian Museum in Cairo, Egypt with the hope of finding gold. The nine men broke into ten cases to take figurines. But none of them contained gold, so the looters dropped them and broke the items. They then took two skulls fo the 2,000-year-old mummies and fled. Several of the looters were detained but many irreplaceable artifacts were destroyed.

ISIS in Mosul

Islamic State militants completely ransacked Mosul’s central museum and destroyed priceless artifacts, some which dated back thousands of years. Some of the statues and artifacts dated back to the Assyrian and Akkadian empires. The terrorist group published a video of the destruction. In the video, an Isis representative condemns Assyrians and Akkadians as polytheists. The militants smashed the statues in the museum with hammers and pushed the remains to the ground so they shattered even more. ISIS has not just destroyed the museum, however, they have caused irreparable damage across Syria and Iraq since 2010.

The Amber Room

The Amber Room was built for Peter the Great in 1717 and was literally a room made out of amber. It was considered to be the eighth wonder of the world. It was dismantled by Nazis in 1941, shipped to Germany and reinstalled in the Konigsberg Castle. But when the war was over, it was dismantled and never seen again. Recently, documents revealed that it was in the Knights’ Hall at Konigsberg Castle when it was burned down by Soviet soldiers.


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